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  How to distract people from the REAL issues... (2016 convention videos)

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have we noticed how the videos that are being shown at the 2016 convention manipulatively try to misdirect from the real issues?.

  the video showing the daughter "leaving the truth" and leaving (kicked out) home has been designed to show that her life falls apart because she "left the truth".. then the video series about the "persecution" paranoia speaks about a brother who is not being saved with them in the basement "because he let fear of man etc" affect him.

  then the video all about sergei's life speaks about his old friend who "let information about the truth make him have doubts" and he is no longer "in the truth" with them...and made out like it is worse than murdering and eating a kitten!.

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  under the radar

  Hi Listener! I've heard of all the other points you mentioned, but can you give me a reference about "not accepting financial aid from a non believing family member"?

  I haven't heard that gem before, and the JW's I know have no problem at all accepting financial aid from wherever they can get it. In fact, it's usually the slackers and non-believers in a JW's family that are the only ones in a position to help. The uberdubs usually live hand to mouth because they have little specialized education and prefer menial jobs so they can work for themselves and have more freedom to "seek the Kingdom first."

  I know there are exceptions, but I've seen this exact situation so many times I think it's safe to consider it the norm.
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  I have a plan....

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with all of the bat-shit crazy propaganda of late, i'm considering talking to my wife about the cult.

  we have had zero religious discussions for two years.

  the last discussion ended with ,"you have no beliefs, no personal beliefs, because you change your "beliefs" when the wtbts writes an article.

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  under the radar

  For what it's worth, I used the "headship" card to prevent my son from being baptized in his pre- and early teens due to emotional appeals from his clinically and repeatedly unstable mother and her congregation "friends." I absolutely forbade him to get baptized before he turned 18. It was "entirely too serious a decision, with too many lifelong ramifications. You're much too young to make such a decision."

  Some elders and other well-meaning ones tried to talk to me about it, but I told them that was my decision as head of the house and basically to mind their own business.

  On the other hand, I did require him to go to meetings until he was 18, out of respect for his mother. I did not require him to go out in "service." He himself asked his mother, "Why should I go door to door trying to teach people things I don't believe myself?"

  Happily, he never attending another meeting after turning 18, except for a few subsequent Memorials just to please his mom. Now, he is an educated and successful adult who wants nothing to do with organized religion. He has seen behind the curtain, and I am so proud that he can and does make his own decisions about what makes sense and what does not.
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  EdenOne, Mrs. Eden & Son: DISASSOCIATED!

  by EdenOne in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  great news!.

  we are free!.

  as of the 9th of june, me and my dear wife mrs. eden handed over our letters of disassociation at bethel in portugal, thus making official our departure from the jehovah's witnesses.

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  under the radar

  Congratulations! I join Simon in raising a glass to you all. I salute your family's courage and wisdom.
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  TWO MEN who changed Watchtower History but YOU NEVER HEARD of them!

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  two men who changed watchtower history but you never heard of them!

  cults are famous for control--especially controlling information about people, places and events which are embarrassing to their self-myths.. especially is this true for two important figures in watchtower history.. .

  the first man is william f. hudgings.

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  under the radar

  I tried checking the jwemployees.bravehost.com/NewsReports link, but it only goes to some weird page saying access is forbidden. Am I missing something?
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  TWO MEN who changed Watchtower History but YOU NEVER HEARD of them!

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  two men who changed watchtower history but you never heard of them!

  cults are famous for control--especially controlling information about people, places and events which are embarrassing to their self-myths.. especially is this true for two important figures in watchtower history.. .

  the first man is william f. hudgings.

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  under the radar

  Very interesting, Terry. Thanks for posting this.
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  What is Critical Thinking? (Not the distorted view the society teaches)

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6olpl5p0fmg.

  this great video explains what critical thinking really is, and why it is a skill all humans need to employ in daily life.. the expression had been distorted by the society to something that is negative or wrong, yet that is far from the case.....

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  under the radar

  Excellent video!
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  Dead Sea Scrolls

  by TheWonderofYou in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  pin sharp pictures of the dead sea scrolls.

  http://www.deadseascrolls.org.il/home.

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  under the radar

  Thank you for sharing this. It's so admirable that these historical documents are being preserved and made available to the general public.
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  happy birthday.

  by zeb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just finished a walk today i came onto a happy family group of all the generations celebrating a tiny ones birthday.

  they all sang ..happy birthday and i sang with my bass baritone the chorus, .."why was she born so beautiful why was she born at all.." silly words but they are happy words.

  the family cheered their pleasure at this outsider joining in.

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  Happy birthday to you both! What a wonderful attitude you have. You have love and warm wishes for someone you've never even met, just, well, because. The world is a better place with people like you.
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  Update on My Journey: 8 Years After the End of Watchtower Control

  by passwordprotected in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i last updated you guys almost 2 years ago here.. i thought i'd post an update.. the peace i discovered having decided to let the angst, worry and fear over what to believe is as strong as ever, although i am keeping more abreast of what jw.org (formerly known as wtbts) is up to, and i never cease to be shocked and surprised.. as my last post mentioned, i split from the jw girl i married in 1993 and both of us have moved on with new partners that better fit who we are as grown adults, rather than the children we were 23 years ago.. my partner has no religious background whatsoever, although her children are being raised as catholics by their father.

  hearing her kids openly doubt, question and even ridicule the religion is heartwarming and exactly the way it should be.. as for my children, they continue to be a never-ending stream of joy and pride.. my oldest son is now 16, having been only 8 years old when we left the watchtower.

  he had big anxiety problems for a while afterwards, worrying about armageddon etc.

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  under the radar

  So happy for you. Your kids are turning out great, and you can justifiably be proud of them and the role you had helping them along.

  Please take care of your health. You know you want to be around for graduations and weddings and grandchildren far into the future, so be a good boy and do what your doc says.

  Thank you so much for the update.
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  Green Burial

  by Xanthippe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so my cousin gave up her fight against bowel cancer a couple of weeks ago.

  yesterday was the funeral.

  i haven't experienced a green burial before.

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  under the radar

  Xanthippe, your post about your cousin's passing and funeral was touching. Very well done. You have quite a way with words.

  Thank you so much for sharing your story. I like the idea of a green burial. It seems so "respectful," much more so than some of the almost grotesque funeral customs I'm more familiar with.
  

  I lost my own niece to bowel cancer only a couple of years ago. 34 years old, married with 3 kids. So sad. Cancer is such a horrible, horrible disease.

  My best to you and yours as you deal with your loss. Positive thoughts coming your way.